|  PeachTeachGA Posts: 5 iv/xi/2013 | Our school is trying to clear up some confusion. We recently purchased a Grand-iii Leveled Bookroom from Scholastic Books. Scholastic says it uses Fountas and Pinnell's Guided Reading leveling system. See blurb from Scholastic's website below. All the same, we have found a multitude of books that are leveled differently than what is on the Fountas and Pinnell leveling subscription site. Some are off just i level, only many are off 3, 4, v consummate levels. For example, Scholastic will say a sure volume is a level E and the Fountas and Pinnell online site will say it is an I. Why is there such a discrepancy? We do non know which level to get by exactly. How can the levels exist and then far off if Scholastic is maxim they are using Fountas and Pinnell leveling? Scholastic Guided Reading Programs deliver the materials you demand to assistance ALL students become strategic and independent readers who love to read! These leveled reading programs were created and carefully leveled by Dr. Gay Su Pinnell, America's leading potency on guided reading. The pedagogy aligns to No Child Left Behind, including rigorous guided practice in comprehension, phonics, phonemic awareness, vocabulary, and fluency. The Guided Reading system for book leveling assigns each book a letter (A-Z) based on the caste of claiming it represents |
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|  The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 4/11/2013 | http://www.fandpleveledbooks.com/ is the merely official source for books leveled past Fountas and Pinnell using their F&P Text Level Gradient™. Every leveled book is meticulously reviewed and leveled by Irene Fountas and Gay Su Pinnell in conjunction with their team of hand-selected levelers using the F&P Text Level Gradient™. We cannot annotate on the work of other publishers. We hope this helps! If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to respond. --
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| PeachTeachGA Posts: five 4/11/2013 | Cheers for your quick response! However, it still does not make sense to us. Scholastic states the following, " These leveled reading programs were created and carefully leveled by Dr. Gay Su Pinnell, America's leading potency on guided reading."
Do you lot come across why we are notwithstanding confused? |
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| The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 four/eleven/2013 | We do, and we regret the confusion, only must restate that we cannot comment on the piece of work of other publishers. --
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| PeachTeachGA Posts: 5 4/xi/2013 | Just seems like yous all would want to make sure you aren't existence misrepresented so! We are sticking with F&P levels that we become from your website. Just FYI...At that place were 143 level discrepancies in the G-three leveled bookroom gear up that we ordered from Scholastic. At that place were only 2 discrepencies in the Text Types sets levels Thousand-West that we ordered that were wrong. Our main goal was to build our starting time readers library. We ended upwards with mode more upper level books than were purported on their K-iii listing and we are now having to fill in those gaps past purchasing more from other companies. Cross-checking levels using F&P site, Book Wizard, and Scholastic's leveled reader listing has been a nightmare. But, we are sticking with F&P site info. |
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| The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 4/11/2013 | We congratulate you lot on your excellent selection :) to stick with the but official source, which we believe y'all'll detect serves you and your students well, and we commiserate with all the extra piece of work and hassle the confusion has acquired. Nosotros hope it'll be smoother sailing for you from now on. --
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|  cindyearley Posts: 17 4/12/2013 | It seems as if I call up having this problem a couple years ago. At that place is a difference betwixt the Guided Reading and the LLI levels. Nosotros were told to make sure to follow the LLI reading levels at that time. |
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| PeachTeachGA Posts: 5 4/12/2013 | Thank you, F & P Team! |
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| PeachTeachGA Posts: 5 4/12/2013 | Cindyearly--I've never heard of LLI levels. What are those? |
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| cindyearley Posts: 17 4/12/2013 | They are the Leveled Literacy Intervention levels that the books are categorized on. At that place is a level chart in your program guide that shows them in correlation to other systems. For instance in the light-green system, it's on page 18. The LLI levels are A, B, C, D, etc. We use DRA in our schoolhouse to determine student levels and then expect at LLI levels in correlation to DRA. I believe that's where the defoliation comes in. If you are looking at the DRA levels to Guided Reading and then the DRA levels to LLI, there is some discrepancy. We make certain to follow the LLI reading levels. Does that brand sense? |
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| The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 4/12/2013 | cindyearley, we call them F&P levels rather than LLI levels, since they are used in all the F&P works and not just LLI. F&P levels can (and, we believe, should) be used in Guided Reading, as discussed in Fountas and Pinnell's seminal piece of work Guided Reading: Adept First Teaching for All Children. What nosotros have managed to trademark is the "F&P Text Level Gradient™". None of the leveling systems you describe are "the" Guided Reading system. --
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| User 459051 Posts: ane iii/24/2014 | I tend to hold that this constitutes a misrepresentation on the role of Scholastic equally to Dr. Pinnell'due south involvement in their program- or she signed off on it for the large bucks without verifying the information. Which one is it? Having been on the receiving stop of what constitutes a bait and switch, information technology seems, I'd love to know who is responsible for the thousands of dollars spent on a "Guided Reading" program with her name on it for which F & P's team cannot presume responsibility. Either they used her proper noun with permission or non. I realize at that place will be no response to this because the monetary ramifications, but simply wanted to point out what I think is unethical. |
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|  User Carrie Posts: 72 3/24/2014 | Just making sure everyone involved minus the F&P team(they obviously know) that the revision at K to end at D affected first and second form. Could that be role of the issue? Did Scholastic employ the quondam F&P gradient? |
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| User 562332 Posts: 1 three/26/2014 | Hello - I'm from Scholastic and would be happy to speak to you about the issues y'all are addressing. The short story is we publish GR programs (in which F&P very much level the books) which are included in the bookrooms. Some of these programs were published some fourth dimension ago and as F&P actively solicit feedback from educators and will reevaluate levels, they practice modify. They are living levels. It does create a challenge when publishing print, as we must go with what is leveled at the time of publication, simply is likewise why we update the bookrooms every couple years. Again, very happy to accost with y'all directly at jacole@scholastic.com. |
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| The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 3/31/2014 | We too regret the confusion this has caused, and encourage y'all toclarify with Scholastic as nosotros cannot comment on other publishers programs orthe way they level books. Gay Su Pinnell leveled some only not allof the books mentioned in a higher place. In add-on, based on feedback fromteachers, some books have changed levels but could not exist changed in the olderpublished materials. However, nosotros can clinch y'all that the levels plant on the Fountas& Pinnell Leveled Book Website are accurate and correct, as information technology is theonly official source for books leveled by Fountas and Pinnell. Every leveledbook is meticulously reviewed and leveled past Irene Fountas and Gay Su Pinnellin conjunction with their team of hand-selected levelers using the F&P TextLevel Slope™. --
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| The Fountas & Pinnell Team Posts: 292 3/31/2014 | We must reiterate that we cannot annotate on other publishersprograms, or the style in which they use the F&P Text Level Gradient™. Yes,Fountas and Pinnell have fabricated minor adjustments to the recommended grade-levelgoals on the F&P Text Level Slope™. However, please note, the F&PText Level Gradient™—the text characteristics and the behaviors andunderstandings associated with each level, A–Z, as described in the GuidedReading department of The Continuum of Literacy Learning—has not changedand volition not alter. Based on your schoolhouse district requirements and professionalteacher judgment, decide whether the revised recommended class-level goals onthe F&P Text Level Gradient™ fit your needs as a district. You lot may decidethat the previous class-level recommendations fit your schoolhouse better. Fountasand Pinnell wrote a paper that lays out the rationale behind their recentdecision to make these minor adjustments to the recommended grade-level goals.These adjustments were necessary to reflect and back up current reviews ofachievement data, Fountas and Pinnell's own classroom observations of children,conversations with educators across the state, and current trends in earlyliteracy instruction. You tin can download a re-create of this paper at http://www.heinemann.com/fountasandpinnell/pdfs/WhitePaperTextGrad.pdf --
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